Sword and pistol (outdated)
Created by Sourceful on May 22nd 2017 (Last Updated: Jan 5th 2018).
This is a private build.
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Update: Corsair3 has no place in r9 so i am closing this build down. Unfortunately pillage is not as good as it was in R8 so its better off going for a swell build or a build that can clear the room fast.
PvP update: This build is still solid in PvP but keep in mind that you are playing as a glass cannon. Use your katon stealth to sneak up on people and iron hook/pistol shot. Also PvP is heavily gear reliant so make sure you are quite geared when you are going into PvP. At least have a good pistol and 1h wep.
This is a versatile build that focuses on 1h wep + pistol and works in both PvE and PvP. It has high burst from double slash + kunai + clones and CC from corsair3. It does decently in farming as well as corsair allows pillaging from jolly roger.
If you have any questions, feel free to ask below. I play on the North american Orsha server and my team name is Resource. This is my main build for my main character except i use hop1 because I already crafted a 315 orange spear awhile back. Here is my youtube channel if you want to see the build in action. http://www.youtube.com/c/Source_DN
Rank 4 choice:
You can pick rod1,hop1,bar 1 for your r4.
Rod1: best for PvP. Shield charge pushes clerics out of safety zone and montano is a great cc with 2 overheat and almost no delay. Requires weapon swap for shield charge. Lv 1 montana and level 1 shield charge. Rest don't matter.
Hop1: mainly taken for spear usage. Pretty weak but if you want a spear then it works fine. You also get synchro thrusting for your clones but it requires a shield. Its weaker in pve compared to barb1 but stronger than rod1 for pve. Finestra is always a great addition. Keep in mind that if you want your clones to copy synchro thrusting then you must be equipping a shield before you summon your clones. Lv5 finetra, Lv5 synchro thrusting. Lv1 stabbing. Lv4 pierce
Barb1: best PvE and better than hop1 in PvP. Cleave debuff to make double slash even stronger. Helm chopper stun is good for PvP.
Str vs Dex vs con?
I did several testing using full Dex, full con and full strength.
Dex by far is the weakest stat. The attack speed is pretty insignificant and crit attack is useless as it's so hard to crit now. Also attack speed never has affected dwa and even if it did, dwa would still suck. Hence the lv 1 dwa. There is a synergy with clones and auto attacking but 100 Dex is enough. You do need Dex in TBL though for block pen. People are starting to go high block builds so I am going to emphasize more on dex now for block pen.
Full con has almost the same damage output as full Dex... Well instead of attack speed you get a lot of hp. At full con I managed 105k HP from 45k. I would trade all that attack speed for that hp any day. High con is the preferred stat for PvP.
Full strength. At first I was skeptical of strength being good but Dex is so useless that str is the best offensive option. High Str is the preferred PvE stat.
So how should you use your stat points ?
For every 15 total dex you have, you will gain some attack speed so increase your dex by increments of 15.
PVP: 50 str, 210 Dex, rest con. You can also go full dex for maximum pen.
Pve: 150 Dex, rest strength.
example of full str vs full con
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbqibihtbLM
Gungho vs Concentrate?
Concentrate is better for pvp.
Gungho is better than concentrate for damage, but Gungho reveals you when you are stealth in TBL! Do not ever use gungho skill in PvP.
Keep in mind that shinobi clones do not use self buffs with exception of glass mole!
Don't plan on PvPing?
You could just leave iron hook at lv 1 and max dust devil. Put the remaining points into jolly roger/max dust devil but this is a crime imo. Iron hook is love. Iron hook is life.
Equipment + gems:
If you can get leather lolopanther/solmiki then it is better than all of this for PvE. Don't bother trying to farm lolo if you don't have it already, just go for solmiki. For PvP you want 1 solmiki cloth top, 3 solmiki plate armor.
Top: Nyx knight armor (lv170). Yellow gem.
Bottom: Nyx knight pants (lv170). Yellow gem
Gloves: Devhlin gauntlet (Lv 270, increase slash dmg on plate) or bone gauntlet for block pen. Yellow gem for block pen.
Shoes: Superior Greytis greaves. (Lv 220). Blue gem
Accessory: Frieno necklace. If you can't get then Max petamion
Bracelet:
-PVE: 2 sissel bracelets (for double slash)
-PVP: 2 Glass bracelets
Weapon:
Purine Pevordimas Sword with 4 socket is the best non solmiki/lolopanther sword you can get right now, but getting that is harder than getting abdochar. If you can't do that then go for a regular pevordimas Sword with 4 socket.
Next in line is abdochar/pierene sword. I really like pierene sword for the mdef and so that would be my main weapon for PvP. IF you are hop1 then wingshard is great/strongest 1h weapon.
Other PvP weapons:
Catacombs blade: Block pen for PvP
Durandal: Low ptk and +2 swordsman skill.
Fyringy/harvester: Negative magic atk to counter malleus.
Put red gems into your main weapon weapon. Green gems are never better sadly.
Subweapon:
Aspana revolver is best in slot(better than sol miki until +11 trans10 and higher). If you can't afford it then go for the 315 hunting ground pistol. Manamana isn't that good anymore unless you get +16 or higher.
Red gems for the raw p.atk
Card:
PvE: 3 glass mole, 3 nuaele, 3 nether bovine, purple slot undecided since we got sword3
PvP: 3 glass mole, ,3 nuaele ,3 ellaganos, 3 dullahan
Recommended: Glass mole for bursting in both pve and pvp
Attributes:
Listed in order of importance. Max all non damage passives.
1. Double slash. Get everything to 50 then 100% this attribute.
2. Kunai
3. Pistol shot
4. Hexen dropper
5. Dust devil
If you are hop1 and utilize synchro thrusting then it would be in the #3 position.
Changelog:
10/18/2017: iron hook moved to lv6. Nerfed in pvp to 10s max duration.
10/09/2017: Updated pvp, dex, Pistol, cards. PvP
09/06/2017: Slight skill adjustment. Green gem removed. Safe concentrate text removed.
08/15/2017: Added pvp warning in red at top
08/01/2017: Changed lolo/solmiki to leather
07/31/2017: For hop1. Stabbing 1. Pierce 4
07/24/2017: Added link to original post of dex bracket system.
07/22/2017: Readded DWA. Good for pillaging as suggested by Zhwan.
07/05/2017: Changed strongest weapon
06/26/2017: Added non PvP option.
06/22/2017: Stat slight change. Added graph for dex
06/16/2017: Text change for manamana subweapon and added bone gauntlet. Attribute and card section added. Added introduction. Added PvP weapons. Moved text around
06/08/2017: Stat adjustment. Emphasis on more dex
06/08/2017: Skill build changed. Concentrate/gungho moved to 0. Added description
06/05/2017: Removed DWA. Got reminded of how useless it is.
06/01/2017: Slightly changed build. 1 point into DWA. Removed keel haul.
05/27/2017: Fixed banner link
05/24/2017: Added my youtube channel link. Links work again. Fixed links
05/24/2017: Added gem section. Changed subweapon text and added a balanced stat
05/23/2017: Added manual link for youtube for full str vs full con. Tosbase hyperlink option is broken
05/22/2017: Fixed youtube link for full str vs full con.
05/22/2017: Added equipment and weapon section.
05/22/2017: Added a banner
Rank 1
Swordsman |
3 / 5 3 Bash: Enhance Type: Passive * Increases the damage dealt on an enemy with [Bash] by 0.5% per attribute level * +10% added damage at maximum level Swordsman 1st Circle required Bash: Splash Type: Active * Increases AoE attack ratio of [Bash] by 1 per attribute level * Increases SP consumption by 10% Swordsman 2nd Circle required Bash: Knockdown Type: Active * Enemies hit by [Bash] are knocked down * Increases SP consumption by 30% Lv3 Bash required Bash [Physical] - [Slash] Inflict damage on an enemy with a powerful attack. Level 3: Attack: 182% AoE Attack Ratio: 0 SP: 15 Type: Melee / Attack Cooldown: 6s 5 / 5 Pain Barrier: Duration Type: Active * Increases [Pain Barrier] duration for 5 seconds * Increases SP consumption by 10% Swordsman 3rd Circle required Pain Barrier Temporarily grants immunity to being affected by knockback, knockdown and stagger. Also increases the chance to resist status abnormalities. Level 5: Duration: 19 seconds SP: 59 Type: Melee / Buff Cooldown: 39s |
Rank 2
Swordsman |
10 / 10 Pain Barrier: Duration Type: Active * Increases [Pain Barrier] duration for 5 seconds * Increases SP consumption by 10% Swordsman 3rd Circle required Pain Barrier Temporarily grants immunity to being affected by knockback, knockdown and stagger. Also increases the chance to resist status abnormalities. Level 10: Duration: 24 seconds SP: 93 Type: Melee / Buff Cooldown: 39s 5 / 5 Restrain: Slow Type: Active * Enemies stunned by [Restrain] become slowed down after stun wears off * Increases duration of slow effect by 3 seconds per attribute level * Increases SP consumption by 10% Swordsman 2nd Circle required Restrain Lowers your maximum HP, but your attacks have a high chance of stunning enemies. Level 5: Chance of Stunning Enemy: 30% Maximum HP: -75 Duration: 45 seconds SP: 30 Type: Melee / Buff Cooldown: 120s |
Rank 3
Swordsman |
15 / 15 Pain Barrier: Duration Type: Active * Increases [Pain Barrier] duration for 5 seconds * Increases SP consumption by 10% Swordsman 3rd Circle required Pain Barrier Temporarily grants immunity to being affected by knockback, knockdown and stagger. Also increases the chance to resist status abnormalities. Level 15: Duration: 29 seconds SP: 127 Type: Melee / Buff Cooldown: 39s 10 / 10 Restrain: Slow Type: Active * Enemies stunned by [Restrain] become slowed down after stun wears off * Increases duration of slow effect by 3 seconds per attribute level * Increases SP consumption by 10% Swordsman 2nd Circle required Restrain Lowers your maximum HP, but your attacks have a high chance of stunning enemies. Level 10: Chance of Stunning Enemy: 60% Maximum HP: -100 Duration: 60 seconds SP: 47 Type: Melee / Buff Cooldown: 120s 5 / 5 3 Double Slash: Enhance Type: Passive * Increases the damage dealt on an enemy with [Double Slash] by 0.5% per attribute level * +10% added damage at maximum level Swordsman 3rd Circle required Double Slash: Critical Type: Active * Increases critical chance of [Double Slash] by 7% per attribute level * Increases SP consumption by 10% Swordsman 3rd Circle required Double Slash [Physical] - [Slash][{img tooltip_speedofatk}Attack Speed] Perform a side slash on enemies. Enemies afflicted with [Bleeding] take additional damage. Level 5: Attack: 304% x 2 AoE Attack Ratio: 2 SP: 35 Type: Melee / Attack Cooldown: 21s |
Rank 4
Barbarian |
5 / 5 3 Stomping Kick: Enhance Type: Passive * Increases the damage dealt on an enemy with [Stomping Kick] by 0.5% per attribute level * +10% added damage at maximum level Barbarian 1st Circle required Stomping Kick [Physical] - [Strike] Trample down on an enemy while in the air or jumping. Increases attack according to the character's height and the boots' defense. Level 5: Attack: 605% AoE Attack Ratio: 1 SP: 46 Type: Melee / Buff Cooldown: 36s 5 / 5 3 Cleave: Enhance Type: Passive * Increases the damage dealt on an enemy with [Cleave] by 0.5% per attribute level * +10% added damage at maximum level Barbarian 1st Circle required Cleave [Physical] - [Slash] Release a strong attack on enemies by spinning your body. Increases your critical rate when the attack lands and deals additional damage to a stunned enemy. Also, the target takes additional slash damage for a certain period of time. Level 5: Attack: 266% Critical Rate: +50 AoE Attack Ratio: 3 SP: 42 Type: Melee / Attack Cooldown: 16s 5 / 5 2 Helm Chopper: Enhance Type: Passive * Increases the damage dealt on an enemy with [Helm Chopper] by 0.5% per attribute level * +10% added damage at maximum level Barbarian 1st Circle required Helm Chopper [Physical] - [Strike] Strike the enemy's head, causing it to become afflicted with [Stun]. Level 5: Attack: 206% x 2 AoE Attack Ratio: 3 SP: 37 Type: Melee / Attack Cooldown: 20s |
Rank 5
Corsair |
1 / 5 Jolly Roger: Unity Type: Active * Nullifies an enemy's attack by a certain chance when [Jolly Roger] is active * Applies the chance by 0.5% per attribute level and increases chances depending on number of pirate members * Does not apply if nobody other than you is a pirate member * Increases SP consumption by 10% Lv2 Jolly Roger required Jolly Roger Place a flag that raises the combat abilities of the pirate crew. A combo is activated if multiple enemies are defeated near the Jolly Roger. Achieving a combo of 300 activates a fever buff that grants additional damage to missile attacks. Level 1: Flag Duration: 35 seconds Missile Attack Damage: +15% Fever Duration: 10 seconds SP: 36 Type: Melee / Attack Cooldown: 35s 5 / 5 Iron Hook: Chain Type: Active * Sequentially fling up to 3 enemies with [Iron Hook] * Cannot use [Keel Hauling] while capturing multiple enemies * Unable to turn ON/OFF during [Guard] Corsair 1st Circle required Iron Hook Capture enemies with a hook. Level 5: Capture Time: 9 seconds SP: 59 Type: Melee / Attack Cooldown: 25s 1 / 5 3 Dust Devil: Enhance Type: Passive * Increases the damage dealt on an enemy with [Dust Devil] by 0.5% per attribute level * +10% added damage at maximum level Corsair 1st Circle required Dust Devil [Physical] - [Slash] [{img tooltip_speedofatk}Attack Speed] As you spin, attack an enemy repeatedly using a weapon in each hand. The enemy will be immobilized temporarily. If the attack is accurate, applies 80% physical attack + 60% subweapon physical attack. Level 1: Attack: 194% x 3 SP: 28 Type: Melee / Attack Cooldown: 20s Required Stance: OneHandSwordDagger, OneHandSpearDagger, RapierAndDagger, OneHandSwordPistol, RapierAndPistol, OneHandSpea |
Rank 6
Corsair |
2 / 10 Jolly Roger: Unity Type: Active * Nullifies an enemy's attack by a certain chance when [Jolly Roger] is active * Applies the chance by 0.5% per attribute level and increases chances depending on number of pirate members * Does not apply if nobody other than you is a pirate member * Increases SP consumption by 10% Lv2 Jolly Roger required Jolly Roger Place a flag that raises the combat abilities of the pirate crew. A combo is activated if multiple enemies are defeated near the Jolly Roger. Achieving a combo of 300 activates a fever buff that grants additional damage to missile attacks. Level 2: Flag Duration: 35 seconds Missile Attack Damage: +18% Fever Duration: 10 seconds SP: 43 Type: Melee / Attack Cooldown: 35s 6 / 10 Iron Hook: Chain Type: Active * Sequentially fling up to 3 enemies with [Iron Hook] * Cannot use [Keel Hauling] while capturing multiple enemies * Unable to turn ON/OFF during [Guard] Corsair 1st Circle required Iron Hook Capture enemies with a hook. Level 6: Capture Time: 10 seconds SP: 66 Type: Melee / Attack Cooldown: 25s 1 / 5 Double Weapon Assault Temporarily connects your basic attacks and dagger attacks. Level 1: Able to use your dagger without delay after normal attacks Duration: 5 minutes Additional damage 35% SP: 38 Type: Melee / Buff Cooldown: 60s 5 / 5 2 Hexen Dropper: Enhance Type: Passive * Increases the damage dealt on an enemy with [Hexen Dropper] by 0.5% per attribute level * +10% added damage at maximum level Corsair 2nd Circle required Hexen Dropper [Physical] - [Pierce] [{img tooltip_speedofatk}Attack Speed] Use a weapon in each hand to deal successive strikes on an enemy. If the attack is accurate, applies 80% physical attack + 60% subweapon physical attack. Level 5: Attack: 185% x 7 SP: 63 Type: Melee / Attack Cooldown: 28s Required Stance: OneHandSwordDagger, OneHandSpearDagger, RapierAndDagger, OneHandSwordPistol, RapierAndPistol, OneHandSpea |
Rank 7
Shinobi |
5 / 5 3 Kunai: Enhance Type: Passive * Increases the damage dealt on an enemy with [Kunai] by 0.5% per attribute level * +10% added damage at maximum level Shinobi 1st Circle required Kunai: Deadly Dagger Type: Active * Doubles the critical chance of [Kunai] * Increase SP consumption by 20% Shinobi 1st Circle required Kunai Throw kunai in all directions to attack enemies. If used by clones, applies as two consecutive hits. Level 5: Attack: 183% x 5 SP: 92 Type: Melee / Attack Cooldown: 10s 5 / 5 Bunshin no Jutsu: Endurance Type: Active * Increases stamina reduction cycle of [Bunshin no Jutsu] by 0.05 seconds per attribute level * Increases SP consumption by 10% Shinobi 1st Circle required Bunshin no Jutsu Creates clones of yourself. The clones will act along as a main body and skills can be used along with your clones. The attribute is not applied to clone's skills. When clones copy skills, SP consumption and cooldown increases in proportion to the number of clones. Level 5: Duration: 20 seconds Summon 5 clones Additional Cooldown [2 + 10% skill's cooldown] * number of clones Additional SP Consumption [10% * number of clones] SP: 192 Type: Melee / Attack Cooldown: 45s 2 / 5 Mokuton no Jutsu: Bind Type: Active * Restricts movement of an enemy for 4 seconds when dealing damage with [Mokuton no Jutsu] Increases duration from Lv2 by 1 second per attribute level * Increases SP consumption by 10% Shinobi 1st Circle required Mokuton no Jutsu Counter-attack by tricking the enemy with a fake doll created from a log. Level 2: Duration: 25 seconds SP: 58 Type: Melee / Attack Cooldown: 35s 1 / 5 2 Katon no Jutsu: Enhance Type: Passive * Increases the damage dealt on an enemy with [Katon no Jutsu] by 0.5% per attribute level * +10% added damage at maximum level Shinobi 1st Circle required Katon no Jutsu: Stealth Type: Active * Hides character for 2 seconds per attribute level after using [Katon no Jutsu] * Increases SP consumption by 10% Shinobi 1st Circle required Katon no Jutsu Attack multiple enemies by continuously exploding the gunpowder you possess. Level 1: Attack: 523% Consumes 2 Ninjutsu Bombs SP: 78 Type: Melee / Attack Cooldown: 25s 2 / 5 Mijin no Jutsu: Enhance Type: Passive * Increases the damage dealt on an enemy with [Mijin no Jutsu] by 0.5% per attribute level * +10% added damage at maximum level Shinobi 1st Circle required Mijin no Jutsu: Stealth Type: Active * Hides character for 5 seconds after using [Mijin no Jutsu] * Increases duration from Lv2 by 1.5 seconds per attribute level * Increases SP consumption by 10% Shinobi 1st Circle required Mijin no Jutsu Attack enemies in the area nearby by exploding the gunpowder you have. Using this technique will also damage you and might cause incapability of combat if your HP is too low. If used by clones, Bunshin no Jutsu is canceled. Level 2: Attack: 1913% Consumes 4000 HP Consumes 5 Ninjutsu Bombs SP: 106 Type: Melee / Attack Cooldown: 50s |
Rank 8
Corsair |
1 / 15 Keel Hauling: Enhance Type: Passive * Increases the damage dealt on an enemy with [Keel Hauling] by 0.5% per attribute level * +10% added damage at maximum level Corsair 1st Circle required Keel Hauling: Bleeding Type: Active * Inflicts [Bleeding] on enemies attacked with [Keel Hauling] for 5 seconds * Increases the duration of [Bleeding] by 1 second per attribute level * Bleeding damage is proportional to character's STR * Increases SP consumption by 10% Corsair 1st Circle required Keel Hauling [Physical] - [Strike] Drag and pull enemies captured with Iron Hook. The enemy will receive damage each time it is pulled. Level 1: Attack: 806% x 2 SP: 31 Type: Melee / Attack Cooldown: 25s 15 / 15 3 Dust Devil: Enhance Type: Passive * Increases the damage dealt on an enemy with [Dust Devil] by 0.5% per attribute level * +10% added damage at maximum level Corsair 1st Circle required Dust Devil [Physical] - [Slash] [{img tooltip_speedofatk}Attack Speed] As you spin, attack an enemy repeatedly using a weapon in each hand. The enemy will be immobilized temporarily. If the attack is accurate, applies 80% physical attack + 60% subweapon physical attack. Level 15: Attack: 342% x 3 SP: 118 Type: Melee / Attack Cooldown: 20s Required Stance: OneHandSwordDagger, OneHandSpearDagger, RapierAndDagger, OneHandSwordPistol, RapierAndPistol, OneHandSpea 10 / 10 2 Hexen Dropper: Enhance Type: Passive * Increases the damage dealt on an enemy with [Hexen Dropper] by 0.5% per attribute level * +10% added damage at maximum level Corsair 2nd Circle required Hexen Dropper [Physical] - [Pierce] [{img tooltip_speedofatk}Attack Speed] Use a weapon in each hand to deal successive strikes on an enemy. If the attack is accurate, applies 80% physical attack + 60% subweapon physical attack. Level 10: Attack: 235% x 7 SP: 99 Type: Melee / Attack Cooldown: 28s Required Stance: OneHandSwordDagger, OneHandSpearDagger, RapierAndDagger, OneHandSwordPistol, RapierAndPistol, OneHandSpea 5 / 5 3 Quick and Dead: Enhance Type: Passive * Increases the damage dealt on an enemy with [Quick and Dead] by 0.5% per attribute level * +10% added damage at maximum level Corsair 3rd Circle required Quick and Dead: Ricochet Type: Active * Creates a ricochet effect on enemies attacked with [Quick and Dead], inflicting 10% more sub-weapon physical damage per attribute level on nearby enemies Corsair 3rd Circle required Quick and Dead [Missile: Gun][{img tooltip_speedofatk}Attack Speed] Fires your pistol subweapon forward, dealing damage to enemies. The attack has a minimum critical chance. Level 5: Attack: 269% x 6 Minimum Critical Chance: 15% SP: 80 Type: Missile / Attack Cooldown: 25s Required Stance: OneHandSwordPistol, OneHandSpearPistol, RapierAndPistol |
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Comments (109)
Most likely r9 will be matador1. Matador2 doesn't look promising so far
I think it is but im not certain. Don't craft any new weps. The 350 purple/orange are far superior unless you got solmiki. Its something like solmiki is only better than 350 orange if both are +21 or higher
what other skill here that can be copied by clones aside from double slash ?
Only swordie skills. This build is for people who want corsair3. Shinobi is just the best option for corsairs until maybe matadors come out.
Nope, double slash is your strongest skill because it can get cloned.
Forgot to mention that its incredibly cheap to max because of its a rank1 class skill
Its an all rounder build.
u should change it to c1 hoplit it's more suitable and u know
wingshard spear is better then any sword
Nope. Its for cleave slash debuff. Most of your burst is from double slash not kunai.
hoplite1 is not too good because you cant use synchro thrusting without a pistol. IF you could then I'd suggest it instead. All you get from hop1 is spear usage and finestra which cleave beats in both
Irrelevant. Blessing + sacrament from a pardoner shop will cover all your needs. Cafrisun will help with leveling up to 170 though
Yup its main purpose is to combine with blessing + sacrament for easy leveling.
It is not necessary but i recommend at least 90 dex. It speeds up your double slash, hexendropper, dust devil quite significantly. The main one being dust devil as the animation is pretty slow.
No, accuracy is not an issue due to the multi hit nature of corsair and shinobi. They might dodge say 50% of your attack but that other 50% will kill them. It would be a different story if you are a murmillo. All of your skills only hit once and if it misses you are screwed.
No to all 3. DWA is not even close to limacon since limacon has an attribute, doubles the damage, makes it spread hit 2 mobs.
Full con is the preferred choice. My character is geared for pve not pvp so I have pve stats.
Well TBL is currently disabled so I can't say since the system will change when its back up.
You mean PvP damage reduction ?
That and CC reduction. The CC reduction might make it so that you need more damage (STR). Also they might nerf corsair's double damage range from gun +1h weapon.
Is this more or less the best build for full PvE 1H Sword?
Thanks in advance for the help!
Do not ignore bash lvl3. Gungho late game doesn't really provide much as most of your damage comes from your weapon. If you really want to save points though, you can get bash lv3. Buy attribute. Skill reset and get bash lv 1. You will keep the knockback attr.
This is not the best 1h sword build. This build Is the best for corsair3 which is pretty much a jack of all trades. It can farm, pvp, pve, et "decently", boss.
Gung Ho and Concentrate seem to have been buffed in the latest patch? What are your thoughts about them?
Ktos? I haven't looked at any news.
For itos it hasnt been buffed at all. Concentrate is bad unless you are full dex or pvper. Gungho is better for pve
Copy and pasta'd from above
PVP: 150 Dex, rest con. You can also go full dex for maximum pen.
Yes, those are invested except for dex. Dex just needs to hit that amount on your stat window
2. I don't understand the Dex chart at all. I'm doing a full Str build, so, so far I've put all of my points into Str. If I need to put any points into Dex (You do mention you need 90 Dex.) When should I do that? The chart doesn't really make it clear,
I'm PvE only. No interest in PvP. Thanks in advance for any answers you can give me.
1. Bash is only level 3 for the knockdown attribute. If you are going to PvP then you want bash to be as weak as possible which is lv3. Too much damage will kill you in PvP due to kabbalist's Revenged 7 folds skill.For PvE you can max it for clone damage filler.
2. Basically ATK speed gained from dex is not increased point by point. It operates by tiers/thresholds. Lets say you are at 88 dex. Your atk speed will be 1.9 atk/second(according to chart). If you put in 1 more point into dex then your atk speed will not increase. Only when you reach 90 or certain thresholds, listed by the chart, will your atk speed improve from 1.9 to 1.98ish (the next tier). The chart is for reference as dex is all preference. I like 90 dex and also keep in mind that some skills and your basic attacks are affected by attack speed. This skills that are affected by attack speed in this build are double slash, hexendropper, dust devil.
You can add the dex whenever you want but when you do. Check the attack speed of dust devil before and after. Its quite significant.
So its up to you what you want. You have to pick what you want to trade off . Its either raw power(str) or faster cast time(dex).
And now I fully understand the Dex and Str thing! Again, thank you so much! It really cleared up what I needed to know to make full use of this guide without worrying too much!
sw3>barb>corsair3>shin
sw3>high3>shin>x
or any good build for shin without taking rod pel murmilo
currently sw3>barb>corsair and feel lack of dps
the delay time when casting cleave double slash and dust devil quite bugging me.
or i should wait till i get shinobi?
normally right now i just spamming normal atck using five hammer n arde to lvl up
No. This is an offensive build and peltasta doesn't provide anything but taunt. You can't use swashbuckle with a pistol.
Okay thank you for the fast asnwer :)
Hop1 is not for pvp. It really doesn't provide anything but block + crit rate but... you won't be using a shield so he block is useless. Lv 5 finestra, rest don't matter
Oops just read your correction.
as stated above you only want 1 in montano and 1 into shield charge. You won't be using any of the other skills so... I'd just leave the points undistributed. You can also get 1 into shield shoving for interrupting casts but i find that restrain or bash does the job. Make sure you keep montano/shield charge lowest damage possible to fight kabbas
Go for the high str stat build. This build is great for new players and you will be needing the extra STR since you are new/gearless. Unfortunately itll hurt you a bit for not going con, but if played right this build is really strong even without con
I'd suggest barb because you need gear. The core build itself is good in pvp but rodelero makes it better. Same with the con. I actually don't pvp with con and i do fine but im 100% certain that if you get con it would be better. You'll be fine whichever stat you do as long as you play smart. Keep in mind going con-less is pretty much glass cannon (which i do)
If PvP, get concentate. If Pve get gungho. Gungho is scales better into the game, but it reveals you in PvP. Honestly i don't even use concentrate or gungho in PvP. Your damage will be enough for it not to matter.
Thanks!!!
Attribute section added
though if you think corsair is good in the PvE build then feel free to add it.
what would be the best PvE shinobi build in your opinion.
Best burst. Sword3>high2>barb>shinobi> r8/doppel/murm/high3/anything really
http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/uasjmm0sn8/
or
sword3>rod3>shinobi>murmillo.
I'm not really a fan of this but it does work just as well.