Battle Series: True DPS/Swordsman Build PvP Version [UPDATED VER 5.0]
Created by Vahn on Apr 17th 2016 (Last Updated: Oct 21st 2016).
This is a public build.
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Full Guide coming soon. In the mean time comment on your thoughts! Thanks!
For those who took Swords C3
Your build should look like this instead:
Swords C3>>Barb C1>>Cata C1>>Barb C2>>Barb C3
You'll be doing way more stuns
2H spear by Cata rank, Before that 2H swords.
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Stats for those who plan to do PvP with this build. If you plan on transitioning to this stat make sure your Dex stats are always 60-65% of your Str stats. Then switch over to this stat allocation and you won't have lost any benefits. This is create to have a good enough accuracy against other high Dex PvP players.
Stat percentage% (for PvP):
Strength: 45
Concentration: 15
Spirit: 10
Dexterity: 30
For every 20 points of Stats:
Str-->9 points
Con-->3 points
Spr-->2 points
Dex-->6 point
For every 10 points of Stats:
Set-1:
Str-->5 points
Con-->1 points
Spr-->1 points
Dex-->3 point
Set-2:
Str-->4 points
Con-->2 points
Spr-->1 points
Dex-->3 point
For every 5 points of Stats:
Set-1:
Str-->2 points
Con-->1 point
Spr-->0 point
Dex-->2 point
Set-2:
Str-->3 points
Con-->0 point
Spr-->0 point
Dex-->2 points
Set-3:
Str-->2 points
Con-->1 point
Spr-->1 point
Dex-->1 points
Set-4:
Str-->2 points
Con-->1 point
Spr-->1 point
Dex-->1 points
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Armor:
I don't care what you wear. There are two exceptions:
1. Do not wear any sort of cloth armor. I hope this is obvious.
2. Always wear gloves with the highest accuracy (leather ones usually). This is a must for PvP. See the 'Glove Guide' below.
3. If you want to only use this build for PvE then wearing all plate is fine
Try to get ones with the highest accuracy. I have listed example of the leather gloves with the best accuracy per level. You will need to start equipping green gems (increases accuracy) into your gloves if even this accuracy is not enough.
Also remember to consider weapon-armor weaknesses before deciding on what to wear or what weapon to use:
Here is a link more on Gems
Here is a gem guide:
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EMBEDDING GEMS ON GEAR GUIDE
Image Credit:Tree of Savior Wiki Database>>Gem
Lets clear up some really confusing short forms used on the wiki. You have this wiki's staff to thank for this. None of their editors stick to a single acronym and each one uses their own and most of them are different from what you find in-game. I won't repeat them if I already explained them for a different gem. Also this is a list of only the non intuitive acronyms used.
Found in all Gem Tables:
ACCESSORIES: Gloves
Does not include Armbands, Head gear, Bracelet, Necklaces as none of them are socketable so far.
Found in Red/Circle Gem:
MHP: Maximum HP
DR: Dodge Rate = Evasion
CRTATK: Critical Attack
MHP: Maximum HP
HR: Hit Rate = Accuracy
RHP: Recovery Rate of HP
MDEF: Magic Defense
PATK: Physical Attack
DEF: Physical Defense
Found in Blue/Square Gem:
MATK: Magic Attack
MSP: Maximum SP
CRTDR: Critical Dodge Rate = Critical Resistance
RSP: Recovery Rate of SP
Found in Yellow/Star Gem
BLK_BREAK: Block Break = Block Penetration
Found in Green/Diamond Gem
CRTHR: Critical Hit Rate = Critical Chance
GREEN/DIAMOND GEMS FOR MAIN WEAPON AND GLOVES
BLUE/SQUARE GEMS FOR BOOTS
YELLOW/STAR GEMS FOR TOP/SHIRT AND BOTTOM/PANTS
RED/CIRCLE GEMS FOR ... JUST PUTTING THE TABLE HERE FOR EASY REFERENCE!
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GEM LEVELING GUIDE
To level your gem you can do one of the following:
1. Best way is using Gem Abrasive. These drops from multiple bosses. You need to be lucky.
2. Second best is using any useless Monster Gem that you may have as feed. You'll be surprised at the exp they give. Again you need to be lucky to get these.
3. Feed them other gems. Or farm for them.
4. Feed cheap materials as gem feed. They give only around 5-10+ exp each time, but if you buy them in bulk like spending 100-250k on them. Then keep on feed that gem. It will accumulate and you can get lots of exp from them combined.
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GLOVE GUIDE
NOTE: When you reach a certain level, I'm going to start recommending you to insert green gems in your glove slots. If you aren't able to level up your gem to my recommended level, then try inserting multiple lower level gems that come -5 to +5 of the stats for the gem level I recommend. Refer to the chart above.
Lv 10-40: Don't bother just level up
lv 40-75: Just get the gloves with the highest accuracy you can find. Don't bother with farming for any sort of specific gloves. It isn't worth your time.
Lv 75-120: Try getting gloves with accuracy higher than or equal to 48. Any one of the following will do:
Brigandine Gloves: 48 acc
Drake Leather: 49 acc
Superior Brigandine: 52 acc
Shade Hands: 51 acc
Prima Leather Gloves: 57 acc
Lv 120-170:You may want to embed low level green gems into your gloves for accuracy. Insert lv 3-4 green gem after level 150. Search for these specific gloves.
Fedimian Leather Gloves: 62 acc
Hunting Gloves: 67 acc
Skirmisher Gloves: 74acc
Legwyn Famility Leather Gloves: 77acc
Lv 170-220: Aim for these gloves below. Plus you'll want to insert a lv4-6 green gem
Superiro Skirmisher Gloves: 87acc
Roxona Leather Gloves: 91acc
Veteran Gloves: 99acc
Lv 220-270: Again aim for the gloves below. Plus you'll want to insert lv7-8 green gem
Bandit Gloves: 112 acc
NOTE: Bandit Gloves is just a temporary place holder. You can use gems but don't waste any high level gems on these. Try and get any one of the other three in the mean time.
Ibre Gloves: 121 acc
Superior Bandit Gloves: 124acc
Virtov Leather Gloves: 122acc
Lv 270+:You know the drill. Get the gloves below. Insert lv 8-10 green gem
Lolopanther Leather Gloves
NOTE:Go ahead and max this one out with gems if you want. The level cap will not increase for a while.
EDIT: Previously I've said that if you extract gems you'll loose it. This was the old mechanic which I've been going by. Back when they allowed you to upgrade equipment to like +40. I've been too scared to extract any gems for fear of loosing it. Hence, I never found out until someone informed me.
Note: When you remove the gem it's level decreases by 1. It is the same thing as when you fail in upgrading your gear. It's potential drops by 1 and so does it's upgrade level (+15 --> +14). Previously failing the upgrade meant your weapon or armor would reset it's level to zero (+0). Then you have to start all over again. Glad that changed!
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Rank 1
  Swordsman |
 1 / 5 5 Video   Thrust: Enhance Type: Passive * Increases the damage dealt on an enemy with [Thrust] by 0.5% per attribute level * +10% added damage at maximum level Swordsman 1st Circle required Thrust: Continuous Attack Type: Active * Activates consecutive attacks when using [Thrust] by 1% chance per attribute level * Increases SP consumption by 10% Swordsman 1st Circle required Thrust: Bleeding Type: Active * Inflicts [Bleeding] on stunned enemies for 5 seconds with [Thrust] * Bleeding damage is proportional to character's STR * Increases SP consumption by 10% Swordsman 2nd Circle required Thrust [Physical] - [Pierce] Push the point of your weapon into enemies, performing a strong piercing attack. Level 1: Attack: 139% AoE Attack Ratio: 1 SP: 9 Type: Melee / Attack Cooldown: 10s  3 / 5 3   Bash: Enhance Type: Passive * Increases the damage dealt on an enemy with [Bash] by 0.5% per attribute level * +10% added damage at maximum level Swordsman 1st Circle required Bash: Splash Type: Active * Increases AoE attack ratio of [Bash] by 1 per attribute level * Increases SP consumption by 10% Swordsman 2nd Circle required Bash: Knockdown Type: Active * Enemies hit by [Bash] are knocked down * Increases SP consumption by 30% Lv3 Bash required Bash [Physical] - [Slash] Inflict damage on an enemy with a powerful attack. Level 3: Attack: 182% AoE Attack Ratio: 0 SP: 15 Type: Melee / Attack Cooldown: 6s  3 / 5  Gung Ho: Enhance Type: Passive * Amplifies physical damage increase effect and decreased defense effect of [Gung Ho] by 1% per attribute level Lv3 Gung Ho required Gung Ho Become determined by temporarily increasing your attack, while decreasing your defense. Level 3: Physical Damage: +14 Physical Defense: -7 Duration: 300 seconds SP: 14 Type: Melee / Buff Cooldown: 40s  3 / 5  Concentrate: Enhance Type: Passive * Increases additional damage of [Concentrate] by 1% per attribute level Lv3 Concentrate required Concentrate Increases your attack damage. Level 3: Additional Damage: +8 Number of Hits: 6 Duration: 45 seconds SP: 18 Type: Melee / Buff Cooldown: 20s  5 / 5 Pain Barrier: Duration Type: Active * Increases [Pain Barrier] duration for 5 seconds * Increases SP consumption by 10% Swordsman 3rd Circle required Pain Barrier Temporarily grants immunity to being affected by knockback, knockdown and stagger. Also increases the chance to resist status abnormalities. Level 5: Duration: 19 seconds SP: 59 Type: Melee / Buff Cooldown: 39s |
Rank 2
 Swordsman |
6 / 10 Gung Ho: Enhance Type: Passive * Amplifies physical damage increase effect and decreased defense effect of [Gung Ho] by 1% per attribute level Lv3 Gung Ho required Gung Ho Become determined by temporarily increasing your attack, while decreasing your defense. Level 6: Physical Damage: +20 Physical Defense: -10 Duration: 300 seconds SP: 22 Type: Melee / Buff Cooldown: 40s 5 / 10 Concentrate: Enhance Type: Passive * Increases additional damage of [Concentrate] by 1% per attribute level Lv3 Concentrate required Concentrate Increases your attack damage. Level 5: Additional Damage: +11 Number of Hits: 10 Duration: 45 seconds SP: 24 Type: Melee / Buff Cooldown: 20s 10 / 10 Pain Barrier: Duration Type: Active * Increases [Pain Barrier] duration for 5 seconds * Increases SP consumption by 10% Swordsman 3rd Circle required Pain Barrier Temporarily grants immunity to being affected by knockback, knockdown and stagger. Also increases the chance to resist status abnormalities. Level 10: Duration: 24 seconds SP: 93 Type: Melee / Buff Cooldown: 39s  5 / 5  Restrain: Slow Type: Active * Enemies stunned by [Restrain] become slowed down after stun wears off * Increases duration of slow effect by 3 seconds per attribute level * Increases SP consumption by 10% Swordsman 2nd Circle required Restrain Lowers your maximum HP, but your attacks have a high chance of stunning enemies. Level 5: Chance of Stunning Enemy: 30% Maximum HP: -75 Duration: 45 seconds SP: 30 Type: Melee / Buff Cooldown: 120s |
Rank 3
 Barbarian |
 5 / 5 3  Cleave: Enhance Type: Passive * Increases the damage dealt on an enemy with [Cleave] by 0.5% per attribute level * +10% added damage at maximum level Barbarian 1st Circle required Cleave [Physical] - [Slash] Release a strong attack on enemies by spinning your body. Increases your critical rate when the attack lands and deals additional damage to a stunned enemy. Also, the target takes additional slash damage for a certain period of time. Level 5: Attack: 266% Critical Rate: +50 AoE Attack Ratio: 3 SP: 42 Type: Melee / Attack Cooldown: 16s  5 / 5 2  Helm Chopper: Enhance Type: Passive * Increases the damage dealt on an enemy with [Helm Chopper] by 0.5% per attribute level * +10% added damage at maximum level Barbarian 1st Circle required Helm Chopper [Physical] - [Strike] Strike the enemy's head, causing it to become afflicted with [Stun]. Level 5: Attack: 206% x 2 AoE Attack Ratio: 3 SP: 37 Type: Melee / Attack Cooldown: 20s |
Rank 4
 Cataphract |
 1 / 5  Impaler: Enhance Type: Passive * Increases the damage dealt on an enemy with [Impale Dagger] by 0.5% per attribute level * +10% added damage at maximum level Cataphract 1st Circle required Impaler [Strike] Impale a small or medium-type monster with the spear. Allows you to attack other enemies with the impaled enemy. The attack applies as critical to enemies afflicted with [Shock]. Level 1: Attack: 232% Duration: 0 seconds AoE Attack Ratio: 1 Able to use while riding SP: 26 Type: Melee / Attack Cooldown: 40s Required Stance: TwoHandSpear, OneHandSpearArtefact, OneHandSpearShield, OneHandSpearDagger, OneHandSpearPistol  4 / 5 3    Earth Wave: Enhance Type: Passive * Increases the damage dealt on an enemy with [Earth Wave] by 0.5% per attribute level * +10% added damage at maximum level Cataphract 1st Circle required Earth Wave: Earth Property Type: Active * Changes the property of [Earth Wave] to Earth property * Increases SP consumption by 10% Cataphract 1st Circle required Earth Wave: Remove Knockdown Type: Active * [Earth Wave] no longer knocks enemies down * Only applies if attribute is set to ON Cataphract 1st Circle required Earth Wave [Physical] - [Strike] Gather up power and use your weapon to attack targets by smashing it to the ground. Deals increased damage to knocked-down enemies. Level 4: Attack: 82% x 5 AoE Attack Ratio: 8 +50% increased damage to knocked-down enemies. Able to use while riding. SP: 46 Type: Melee / Attack Cooldown: 10s Required Stance: TwoHandSpear, OneHandSpearArtefact, OneHandSpearShield, OneHandSpearDagger, OneHandSpearPistol  5 / 5 Trot Increases your movement speed while riding. Level 5: Movement Speed: +10 Duration: 30 seconds SP: 53 Type: Melee / Buff Cooldown: 50s  5 / 5    Steed Charge: Enhance Type: Passive * Increases the damage dealt on an enemy with [Steed Charge] by 0.5% per attribute level * +10% added damage at maximum level Cataphract 1st Circle required Steed Charge: Critical Type: Active * [Steed Charge] applies as critical on enemies afflicted with [Slow] * Increases SP consumption by 20% Cataphract 1st Circle required Steed Charge: Remove Knockdown Type: Active * Removes knockback effect from [Steed Charge] * Only applies if attribute is set to ON * Increases SP consumption by 10% Cataphract 1st Circle required Steed Charge [Physical] - [Strike] Charges into the enemy, dealing damage. Deals additional damage to enemies affected by the Dethrone debuff. Able to use skill again 1.5 sec after casting. Level 5: Attack: 272% AoE Attack Ratio: 5 Able to use while riding SP: 51 Type: Melee / Attack Cooldown: 8s |
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Rank 5
Barbarian |
9 / 10 3 Cleave: Enhance Type: Passive * Increases the damage dealt on an enemy with [Cleave] by 0.5% per attribute level * +10% added damage at maximum level Barbarian 1st Circle required Cleave [Physical] - [Slash] Release a strong attack on enemies by spinning your body. Increases your critical rate when the attack lands and deals additional damage to a stunned enemy. Also, the target takes additional slash damage for a certain period of time. Level 9: Attack: 314% Critical Rate: +50 AoE Attack Ratio: 3 SP: 62 Type: Melee / Attack Cooldown: 16s 8 / 10 2 Helm Chopper: Enhance Type: Passive * Increases the damage dealt on an enemy with [Helm Chopper] by 0.5% per attribute level * +10% added damage at maximum level Barbarian 1st Circle required Helm Chopper [Physical] - [Strike] Strike the enemy's head, causing it to become afflicted with [Stun]. Level 8: Attack: 234% x 2 AoE Attack Ratio: 3 SP: 49 Type: Melee / Attack Cooldown: 20s  3 / 5   Warcry: Enhance Type: Passive * Enhances physical attack increase effect of [Warcry] by 1% per attribute level * Attribute applies after an enemy's defense is reduced Lv3 Warcry required Warcry: Add Target Type: Active * Increases the amount of enemies [Warcry] can affect by 1 per attribute level * Increases SP consumption by 20 * Increases SP consumption by 30% Barbarian 3rd Circle required Warcry: Duration Type: Active Increases the duration of [Warcry] by 2 seconds per attribute level * Increases SP consumption by 20% Barbarian 2nd Circle required Warcry: Debuff Duration Type: Active * Increases duration of all Barbarian debuffs by 1 second per attribute level when affected by the [Warcry] debuff * Duration increase reduced to 1/3 in PvP * Increases SP consumption by 10% Barbarian 3rd Circle required Warcry Temporarily decreases the defense of nearby enemies and increases attack proportionally to the number of targets nearby. Level 3: Targets: 5 Maximum Physical Defense: -10% Attack increase per target: 12 Duration: 30 seconds SP: 38 Type: Melee / Buff Cooldown: 42s  5 / 5 Frenzy: Maintain Stacks Type: Active * Maintains the stacks from [Frenzy] when switching to another target, but the maximum amount of stacks is reduced by half * Increases SP consumption by 10% Barbarian 3rd Circle required Frenzy Increases your attack when you keep repeatedly attacking one particular enemy. Level 5: Attack per Stack: +1.5% Maximum Stacks: 10 Attack Speed: +200 Duration: 40 seconds SP: 52 Type: Melee / Buff Cooldown: 70s  5 / 5 2  Seism: Enhance Type: Passive * Increases the damage dealt on an enemy with [Seism] by 0.5% per attribute level * +10% added damage at maximum level Barbarian 2nd Circle required Seism [Physical] - [Slash] Create an earthshake to stop enemies from attacking. The enemy has a chance to become afflicted with [Stun]. Level 5: Attack: 201% x 3 AoE Attack Ratio: 5 SP: 54 Type: Melee / Attack Cooldown: 18s |
Rank 6
 Barbarian |
10 / 10  Frenzy: Maintain Stacks Type: Active * Maintains the stacks from [Frenzy] when switching to another target, but the maximum amount of stacks is reduced by half * Increases SP consumption by 10% Barbarian 3rd Circle required Frenzy Increases your attack when you keep repeatedly attacking one particular enemy. Level 10: Attack per Stack: +1.5% Maximum Stacks: 20 Attack Speed: +250 Duration: 50 seconds SP: 82 Type: Melee / Buff Cooldown: 70s 10 / 10 2 Seism: Enhance Type: Passive * Increases the damage dealt on an enemy with [Seism] by 0.5% per attribute level * +10% added damage at maximum level Barbarian 2nd Circle required Seism [Physical] - [Slash] Create an earthshake to stop enemies from attacking. The enemy has a chance to become afflicted with [Stun]. Level 10: Attack: 256% x 3 AoE Attack Ratio: 5 SP: 84 Type: Melee / Attack Cooldown: 18s  5 / 5   Pouncing: Enhance Type: Passive * Increases the damage dealt on an enemy with [Pouncing] by 0.5% per attribute level * +10% added damage at maximum level Barbarian 3rd Circle required Pouncing: Knockdown Type: Active * Enemies hit by [Pouncing] have a 8% chance per attribute level of being knocked down * Increases SP consumption by 5 * Increases SP consumption by 30% Barbarian 3rd Circle required Pouncing [Physical] - [Slash] Charge forward while slashing, attacking any enemies that block your way. Has a chance to deal additional damage to a stunned enemy. Level 5: 144% Attack per 0.5 seconds Maximum Duration 10 seconds Consume STA SP: 54 Type: Melee / Attack Cooldown: 81s |
Rank 7
 Doppelsoeldner |
 5 / 5 Deeds of Valor Increases the damage you deal to enemies, but also increases the damage you receive. Level 5: Additional Damage: +13% Damage Received: +9% Duration: 35 seconds SP: 77 Type: Melee / Buff Cooldown: 43s  5 / 5 5   Mordschlag: Enhance Type: Passive * Increases the damage dealt on an enemy with [Mordschlag] by 0.5% per attribute level * +10% added damage at maximum level Doppelsoeldner 1st Circle required Mordschlag: Cloth Armor Type: Active * Attacks become critical hits while attacking Cloth armor-type enemies with [Mordschlag] * Increases SP consumption by 10% Doppelsoeldner 1st Circle required Mordschlag [Physical] - [Strike] Hold your sword backwards and use its handle to smack down an enemy. Level 5: Attack: 835% AoE Attack Ratio: 2 SP: 80 Type: Melee / Attack Cooldown: 30s  5 / 5 2    Cyclone: Enhance Type: Passive * Increases the damage dealt on an enemy with [Cyclone] by 0.5% per attribute level * +10% added damage at maximum level Doppelsoeldner 1st Circle required Cyclone: Movement Type: Active * Allows movement when using [Cyclone] * Increases SP consumption by 30% Doppelsoeldner 1st Circle required Cyclone: Resistance Type: Active * Increases chance to block harmful effects by 15% per attribute level during [Cyclone] * Increases SP consumption by 10% Lv. 3 Cyclone required Cyclone [Physical] - [Slash] Use centrifugal force to continuously attack enemies. Level 5: 180% Attack per 0.2 seconds Duration: 5.5seconds AoE Attack Ratio: 8 SP: 92 Type: Melee / Attack Cooldown: 45s |
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Comments (29)
Hey Vahn what about attributes?
http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/dcwl1wziks/
For those of you who went with Swords C3 I recommend Switching Barb C2 with Cata.
I prefer to have it this way due to the mobility from Cata.
Sorry not Barb C2 but Exchange it with Doppel instead. That means you'll be going just Doppel C1 and you'll make a switch at rank 8 (so will I most prob) to a better damage class.
do you mean switch Doppel C1 to Cata C2??? and what skills i invest??? can you please write again in the answer the new buildrank by rank.... ty
I posted it on my build description:
If you took Swords C3 (following the older version of this build then)
Swords C3>>Barb C1>>Cata C1>>Barb C2>>Barb C3>>Rank 8 undecided.
ty
I pick Barb C1 and no Sword C3 and i just took 2h attribute... i dont know what more train
Hi. i followed your previous ver. im already swrd c3 class level 15 going to barb however, i just checked this, and the build is now updated. is it okay to have the previous skill build which is 3 gung ho and 3 concetrate, then 15 pain barrier with 5 pommel and 5 double slash ?
what should i do now following your updated build?
should i buy reset skill or is it fine and then continue to follow the barb c1 build?
Thanks
1. For the revious version yes you need 2H sword for Doppel's Ridel, zucken and Zornhau.
2. Yes, it is as you say, though High lander is also good at PvP, but Swords C2 is definitely a PvP exclusive.
3. More on Str like 40-50% of all allocated points you put into your Build. But it's very important that your Dex be 65-70% of your Str as well.
4. Yes, 10-15% of all your points should go into Spr only for the Spr though. Not much point in doing it for the mag def unless you plan on doing PvE and for tanks.
Embowl isn't really necessary. It's useful for surprising and running some area benefits that magic casters can use. Like safety wall, push them out of it and no longer protected or if they have healing areas, statues you can get them out of that region and then block their way.
of course go lv 10 cleave if you want
I got another matter regarding this class build. Can I use two-handed sword with this build? Coz ive seen some reports, especially in the F2P release, that a swordsman who took c2/c3 classes wont be able to use 2-handed swords, even if they took barbarian class.
http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/dcwl1wziks/
Also follow these stats instead:
Str:45%
Con:20%
Dex:20%
Spr:15%
Also using the set method for investing:
Set of 20:
Str: 9 point
Dex: 4 points
Con: 4 points
Spr: 3 points
Set of 10 [1]:
Str:4
Dex:2
Con:2
Spr:2
Set of 10 [2]:
Str:5
Dex:2
Con:2
Spr:1
Set of 5 [1]:
Str:2
Dex:1
Con:1
Spr:1
Set of 5 [2]:
Str:2
Dex:1
Con:1
Spr:1
Set of 5 [3]:
Str:3
Dex:1
Con:1
Spr:0
Set of 5 [1]:
Str:2
Dex:1
Con:1
Spr:1
Sorry for the wait but I'll release the guide tomorrow. My busy period is finally over and I'm going to relax a bit.
Hey Vahn When you will update this Build PvP ?
i have been waiting to see this job for PvP
Question if this is a true DPS build why is Gung Ho and Concentrate not max? Aren't those one of the best buffs for swordsman?
Most of their power comes from their maxed out attribute. But, It's a shame I can't max them out since the other skills offer a much better benefit for those points. Now I find that Pommel even with it's ignore defense and additional damage on stunned enemies doesn't offer much in terms of damage so I tool that out and distributed the points to Gungh Ho and Concentrate. That's the best I can do for them. But, most of the buffing will come for Barb C2.
Can I just take the points from pain barrier and put it on Concentrate and Gung Ho?
You could but that's more of a PvE nature where you want to maximize auto-attacks and not a PvP thing. Since, you chose this build I can only assume that you want to do PvP. Then pain barrier would be more useful ate game than a few points on Gung ho and Concentrate since they are eclipsed by better buffs like war cry, frenzy, deeds and the maxed of attribute of gung ho and concentrate provide 90% of their benefit anyway.
So, go ahead if you want to, but it might not be as beneficial as you think in a PvP setting.
the fuck. I followed this but it suddenly change. The last guide shows a c3 swordsman. Now it shows that is not needed anymore. So basically, It ruined everything. Geez
First of all I want to apologize. I understand your frustrations and I'm sorry. But, understand that this is the same as if I created an alternate PvP build and linked it. The reason I didn't do it that way is since I have some 20 different builds I'm already managing and I just want to use one of it for PvP. This does not mean that you screwed up or the previous version was bad. It's just an opinion on my part. When you make a conscious decision to follow a build, you follow it , understand it's choices and modify it according to your needs, you don't follow everything the build creator does, since their opinions will more or less change down the road.
Now, if you chose C3 swords, you cna still exchange a Doppel for Cata. I believe mobility is quite important too. You won't be losing much it terms of damage since I'll be choosing a different class at rank 8, since in PvP rather than pure damage what is most important is:
1. Mobility
2. CC skills (Stuns from Swords and Barb)
3. Damage
as you can see damage is the least important, compared to my view of it earlier.
So, your build isn't screwed not unless you took Doppel C2 and are at rank 7. As long as you didn't take that you can always put a Cata into it.
Also there are some minor annoyances with this build which you won't experience for the older version. You can see when you copy this build that there are plenty of skills that can't be used with a mount. So, it isn't as fluid as other Cata builds and you'll have to keep mounting or unmounting to use certain skills. Kind of like a weapon swap. So, I still don't know how this build will turn out. But, I intend to make it work. Also thanks for not cursing at me.
im kinda frustrated but its fine. Don't apologize, its just shows that im a bit noob in the game but im learning. Well the c3 work out fine since i can do restrain 10/10 which is 40% stun rate and good for pvp.
btw im not a rage player who do cursing. lol
I also want to help you doing some suggestions :-)
Well if not you I do suspect that I made some enemies with what I did. So, I'm ready and I've braced myself for the in coming storm :(
Thanks, I'll accept all the help I can get.
Maybe lets talk in fb? I'd like to add some to your past recommended build since I followed it. Im not gay dont get me wrong hahaha